STAGE TO ANSWER LOTS OF PRESSING POLICY QUESTIONS, BUT TODAY'S HEARING OF U.S. HOUSE COMMITTEE FOCUSED ON THAT MOST OF VEXING OF QUESTIONS FOR HUMANITY, ARE WE ALONE IN THE UNIVERSE?

MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE COMMITTEE HEARD TESTIMONY FROM SEVERAL WHISTLEBLOWERS WHO SAY THE GOVERNMENT IS COVERING UP VITAL INFORMATION ON UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL PHENOMENON, WERE COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS UFOS.

HERE IS A FORMER NAVY PILOT DESCRIBING SOME OF THE UNEXPLAINED PHENOMENA HE AND OTHER PILOTS HAVE SEEN.

>> WE WERE PRIMARILY SEEING DARK GRAY OR BLACK YOUTH INSIDE A CLEAR SPHERE.

>> I'M SORRY.

CUBES?

>> YES.

INSIDE A SPHERE WHERE THE APEX WAS TOUCHING THE INSIDE OF THE SPHERE.

THAT WAS PRIMARILY WHAT WAS BEING REPORTED WILL BE GOT A VISUAL TALLY.

THAT OCCURRED OVER ALMOST 8 YEARS.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT IS STILL OCCURRING.

>> JOINING US NOW WITH MORE ARE RON JAMES, MEDIA RELATIONS DIRECTOR FOR THE MUTUAL UFO NETWORK AND MAKER OF THE DOCUMENTARY, ACCIDENTAL TRUTH, UFO REVELATIONS.

JOINING US FROM SEDONA, ARIZONA.

LOCAL ASTRONOMER AND SPACE ENTHUSIASTS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF FARTHER HORIZONS, WELCOME BOCA VIEW TO CHICAGO TONIGHT.

SOMEBODY MORE BOND SHALL TESTIMONY HERE FROM AIR FORCE INTELLIGENCE OFFICER INCLUDED THE CLAIM THAT THE DOD, DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, HAS BEEN RECOVERING CRASHED UFOS FOR YEARS AND FOR KEEPING THE FINDING SECRET.

WHAT IS YOUR REACTION?

>> THE FILM I MADE, ACCIDENTAL TRUTH, IS VERY DETAILED EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO SUPPORT ALL OF THIS .

IN FACT, MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE FILM ARE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HEADLINES WE'RE SEEING TODAY.

I PRESENT A VERY STRONG CASE THAT WHAT HE IS SAYING IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

>> FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE SCIENCE COMMUNITY OR PHYSICS OR ASTRONOMERS, WHAT IS THE GENERAL VIEW ON CLAIMS LIKE THIS?

AND SOME OF THE VIDEOS AND INCIDENTS WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE YEARS OF THESE OBJECTS THAT REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY EXPLANATION?

>> THE THING THAT PEOPLE KEEP COMING BACK TO, SCIENTISTS ESPECIALLY, IS, WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?

WE HAVE FANTASTIC TESTIMONY, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?

NOT JUST PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, BUT CONVINCING, REPEATED PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE THAT DEMONSTRATES SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CAPABLE BY NATURE OR HUMAN CRAFT.

>> YOU ARE SAYING THERE IS EVIDENCE, AND THESE WITNESSES TODAY WERE SAYING THAT THERE ARE INVESTIGATIONS ONGOING.

THE INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORTS WHISTLEBLOWERS, BUT THEY CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT THE EVIDENCE IS.

SO WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE?

>> I THINK THAT IS ABOUT TO CHANGE.

WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH THE PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT, AS EARLY AS THE 30s, DEFINITELY THE 40s, A VERY SECRET SELECT GROUP WAS CONVENED TO MANAGE THIS INFORMATION.

SOME PEOPLE CALL THEM MAJESTIC 12, IT COULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT THESE PEOPLE, BASICALLY, WERE ACCOUNTABLE TO ONLY THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF MILITARY AND THE POLITICAL BODY.

THEY DECIDED THIS NEEDED TO BE KEPT SECRET.

HIGHLY COMPARTMENTALIZ ED PROGRAMS, FUSION OF GOVERNMENT AND INDUSTRY, ALL OPERATING ON BLACK BUDGET SO DEEP THAT, OVER TIME, THEY BECAME ACCOUNTABLE TO NOBODY.

THAT IS WHO HAS BEEN GUARDING THIS EVIDENCE, AND THAT IS WHERE IT LIES.

IN THE FILM, WE WERE ABLE TO UNCOVER FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT RESPONSES THAT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN THE 1940S THE ARMY FORMED SOMETHING CALLED THE INTERPLANETARY PHENOMENON RESEARCH UNIT.

AS MATTHEW MODINE, WHO NARRATES THE MOVIE ASKS, WHY DO THEY NEED THAT?

THE EVIDENCE CHAIN , MATERIALS THAT WERE SUPPOSEDLY CREATED IN LABORATORIES BY HUMANS GO BACK TO INSTITUTES LIKE THE TELL MEMORIAL INSTITUTE.

THEIR RESEARCH WAS SECRET .

>> I WANT TO CUT YOU OFF.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER TESTIMONY HERE.

THIS WAS REFERRING TO THE INFAMOUS TIKTOK AIRCRAFT INCIDENT FROM ABOUT 17 YEARS AGO THAT WAS CAUGHT ON VIDEO.

A FORMER NAVY COMMANDER A PILOT SPOKE OUT ABOUT THAT INCIDENT THAT HE OBSERVED.

>> I AM NOT A UFO FANATIC.

IT IS NOT ME.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU, WHAT WE SAW WITH FOUR SETS OF EYES OVER A FIVE-MINUTE PERIOD , THERE IS NOTHING, WE HAVE NOTHING CLOSE TO IT.

IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE.

I TOLD MY BUDDY I WANTED TO FIGHT IT.

IT IS INCREDIBLE TECHNOLOGY.

>> THIS THING THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS ACCELERATING INSTANTLY AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY ENGINE.

IS A GENERALLY ACCEPTED THAT THIS WAS SOME KIND OF PHENOMENON THAT THERE ARE NO HUMAN ANSWERS TO HOW IT DID WHAT IT DID?

>> FIRST OF ALL, IT IS A TICTAC, LIKE THE CANDY.

>> I'M SORRY, NOT TIKTOK, LIKE THE APP.

>> AND ALL OF THESE CASES, THERE IS A BIG DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE PERSONAL TESTIMONY OF THE PILOTS AND THE VIDEOS THEMSELVES.

I HAVE ANALYZED THESE VIDEOS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THEM, AND PLOT THINGS OUT , NONE OF THE VIDEOS SHOW ANY KIND OF ANOMALOUS BEHAVIOR.

I HAVE WORKED WITH INFRARED SENSORS, THERMAL INFRARED, AND THE APPEARANCE IS LIKE A LOT OF THE ARTIFACTS, THE IMAGING DEFECTS THAT WE SEE IN THESE KINDS OF DETECTORS.

>> IS A POSSIBLE WITH THIS INCIDENT THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF HUMAN SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION FOR WHAT THESE PHENOMENA ARE?

>> I CERTAINLY AGREE THAT THE STUFF THAT HAS BEEN RELEASED PUBLICLY IS INCONCLUSIVE, AT BEST.

BUT THE TESTIMONY FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THE OTHER VIDEOS AND THE DESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE NOT CLASSIFIED ABOUT THE FLIGHT CHARACTERISTICS OF THESE OBJECTS, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE VIDEO, THEY SEEMED INDICATED TECHNOLOGY FAR BEYOND WHAT WE CAN DO NOW.

THAT TECHNOLOGY SEEMS TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE 40s WHEN WE HAD FOO FIGHTERS CITED BY WORLD WAR II AIRCRAFT PILOTS DOING MANY OF THE SAME THINGS.

>> EXPLAIN TO VIEWERS HOW DIFFICULT, INDEED, IT WOULD BE FOR SOME EXTRATERRESTRIAL SPECIES TO SEND AN OBJECT ALL THE WAY HERE FROM SOME OTHER SOLAR SYSTEM TO EARTH IN TERMS OF OUR UNDERSTANDING OF PHYSICS.

IT IS STILL NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TAKE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

>> I THINK YOU HIT IT RIGHT THERE.

GIVEN OUR UNDERSTANDING OF PHYSICS WITH THE BIGGEST ONE BEING THE ULTIMATE SPEED LIMIT OF THE SPEED OF LIGHT.

THE VERY CLOSEST STAR IS MORE THAN FOUR LIGHT-YEARS AWAY.

IT WOULD TAKE MORE THAN FOUR YEARS EVEN IF WE COULD TRAVEL AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT.

GETTING CLOSE TO THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS NOT POSSIBLE WITH ANY HUMAN TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE NOW.

SCIENCE-FICTION.

GIVEN THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THINGS LIKE COLONY SHIPS.

WE ARE IN THE REALM OF SCIENCE FICTION HERE.

ON THE FACE OF IT, THERE IS A BIG HURDLE RIGHT THERE.

>> WE HAVE TO LEAVE THIS DISCUSSION THERE FOR NOW, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE HAVING THIS,